Lettera: New file behaviour is very incorrect and broken

[Noleli]

@Somnesis

BUT I think it is misguided to try force every single use case into a project-oriented workflow by forcing all new documents into a “default folder”, even if you let the user pick what the default folder is. This is simply non-standard behaviour for a document based Mac app. Other apps do manage to solve this elegantly though. TextMate 2, despite its age, handles this pretty well: All documents (new or opened) are treated correctly as documents, but if you open a folder instead, that window where the folder is opened to will be in “project mode”. I’m sure there’s other examples to look at.

fwiw, this is exactly the behavior I would expect. Opening a folder means opening a project, so ⌘N can create a new file in that folder. If I’m not in a folder window, I expect to work with individual files so ⌘N should create a new unsaved Untitled file.

[kirkmc]

@Noleli

fwiw, this is exactly the behavior I would expect. Opening a folder means opening a project, so ⌘N can create a new file in that folder. If I’m not in a folder window, I expect to work with individual files so ⌘N should create a new unsaved Untitled file.

But that’s not how it works. The behavior of Command-N doesn’t change, whether you’re “in a folder” or just viewing a single file. It always opens a new file in the base folder.

[Noleli]

Yep, I understand. I was just sharing what I think it should do.

[kirkmc]

I know they can be moved from iCloud, but it’s a lot easier to do that from the File menu than to have to drag and drop from the sidebar, since you have to open the folder where you want to put the file. I think it makes sense that apps that use iCloud Drive by default have a File > Move To menu item.

[matteo]

@kirkmc

I think it makes sense that apps that use iCloud Drive by default have a File > Move To menu item.

I’ve added it to the current version, you can expect it in the next update.

[matteo]

@Noleli

Opening a folder means opening a project, so ⌘N can create a new file in that folder. If I’m not in a folder window, I expect to work with individual files so ⌘N should create a new unsaved Untitled file.

This we are considering. We’re a bit concerned about a hotkey that changes behaviour depending on context, but we’re discussing it internally.

[kirkmc]

Thanks.

20 character minimum…

[krssno]

@Noleli

If I’m not in a folder window, I expect to work with individual files so ⌘N should create a new unsaved Untitled file.

Yes, I completely agree. That’s also exactly what I would intuitively expect.